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  • #31595
    Gill123
    Member

    Hi,

    Ive been posting on boards for sometime, but could not get back in as forgot username and password. Anyway, I have now got my first appointment for all day assessment for bypass at Chichester on 30th May. Anyone know what happens please?

    Im still wrestling with my emotions as to whether this is the way forward for me or not as a diabetic and fibromyalgia suffer. If anyone can answer any of my multiple :bored: questions Id be grateful, thank you.

    I have diabetes type 2 and last year had to start injecting insulin along with tablets and diet control. I have been diabetic for about 15 years now. I also have Fibromyalgia since 2002 and have to take med’s for that, in truth the Fibro has affected my life more than the Diabetes, due to sleep problems, pain and lack of energy & memory, to the extent I had to give up my full time job that I loved.
    I have done many diets successfully, then always put the weight + some back on over the years, so am now considering a gastric bypass as not only will it help me lose and maintain, but it will also help my diabetes.
    I said “considering” mainly because I have a huge fear of surgery as this surgery isn’t a small operation. I have done research and some people seem to sail through this operation and are very pleased with it, whilst others do not, they have problems with hernia’s, gall bladder, vomiting, severe constipation, adhesions etc.
    Apart from the fear of surgery, the other thing that makes me worried is basically am I going to be swapping one bag of problems (diabetes and fibromyalgia) for another set of problems that could be even worse and require lots more surgery!
    I’d really appreciate anyone’s experience on this if you have the time? I also have some questions (sorry!) and would appreciate anyone input, thank you.
    I weigh 16.8 stone so although not drastically over weight, it’s having a bad effect on my diabetes and since entering the menopause (now 54 years old) weight has gained more. I eat quite sensibly, although portion control is not good.
    1. How do you manage knowing you cannot eat your favourite foods anymore for life?
    2. Have you found foods you cannot eat now, such as rice, pasta or bread?
    3. I have to take iron tablets for anaemia, cause unknown after many tests, does anyone else and how has that affected you?
    4. I already suffer constipation at times and heard this gets worse after surgery? How do you combat this? I cannot tolerate some of the med’s because they cause me stomach cramps due to IBS.
    5. How did you cope immediately after surgery, did it take you long to get over and cope with eating again in a new way?
    6. Lastly how do you cope and more importantly hide loss skin, sorry that’s rather personal question, but I do not want to spend the rest of my life in a suit of armour ?

    Thank you

    #52508
    bikerchris
    Participant

    Hi Gill

    I can’t answer all of your questions, only tell you my experience. Currently, I am 10 days post bypass, I very much identify with your fears over the surgery itself, I had them too. Because the risks are spelled out to us repeatedly as we consider wls, we’d not be human if we didn’t worry about the potential complications and indeed our own mortality. Talking this through with others helped a lot. The wisest feedback I got was from my 20 year old son who said that if the risks of making a journey by car were brought to our attention every time we went anywhere, no-one would ever get behind the wheel.

    To give you some background on me, I’m mid 40s and have been overweight nearly all my adult life. I have lost weight with success on a number of occasions and always gained it back. Having reached the point where my obesity was diminishing the quality of my life to a considerable extent, I took the decision to have the bypass.

    Regarding the pre-assessment, I attended this in February and this consisted of a consultation with a specialist nurse for height, weight, oxygen levels etc. Then a dietetic consultation in which my eating history was discussed and the pre-op and post-op eating plan was outlined. There was a psychological consultation because I know there will be a psychological impact to my weight loss and finally a consultation with the surgeon. I think in order to get the mist from your assessment, do as much research as possible before you go. Write down any queries you have as you think of them and go armed with a list of questions. When you have all the facts, you will find your decision easier.

    Regarding the other things, I didn’t find the surgery easy, I struggled with post op pain, was anaemic and very short of breath. But day by day I’m getting better and enjoying little walks 4 times a day. The food is ok so far, but at 10 days in, you probably need insight from those further down the road. I don’t know how I’ll feel in a month or 6 months but I have no problem up to now, except being slightly in mourning for Pepsi Max! From what I hear, there is a learning curve in which we discover what we can and can’t eat successfully. Rather than feeling denied anything, I’m focusing on enjoying what I am having.

    This is the friendliest, loveliest forum around and no doubt you’ll get more input than my limited experience. Good luck!!

    Chris xx

    #52509
    bikerchris
    Participant

    * most, not mist, obviously :loco:

    #52491
    Lauren
    Keymaster

    @Gill123 32019 wrote:

    Hi,

    Ive been posting on boards for sometime, but could not get back in as forgot username and password. Anyway, I have now got my first appointment for all day assessment for bypass at Chichester on 30th May. Anyone know what happens please?

    Im still wrestling with my emotions as to whether this is the way forward for me or not as a diabetic and fibromyalgia suffer. If anyone can answer any of my multiple :bored: questions Id be grateful, thank you.

    I have diabetes type 2 and last year had to start injecting insulin along with tablets and diet control. I have been diabetic for about 15 years now. I also have Fibromyalgia since 2002 and have to take med’s for that, in truth the Fibro has affected my life more than the Diabetes, due to sleep problems, pain and lack of energy & memory, to the extent I had to give up my full time job that I loved.
    I have done many diets successfully, then always put the weight + some back on over the years, so am now considering a gastric bypass as not only will it help me lose and maintain, but it will also help my diabetes.
    I said “considering” mainly because I have a huge fear of surgery as this surgery isn’t a small operation. I have done research and some people seem to sail through this operation and are very pleased with it, whilst others do not, they have problems with hernia’s, gall bladder, vomiting, severe constipation, adhesions etc.
    Apart from the fear of surgery, the other thing that makes me worried is basically am I going to be swapping one bag of problems (diabetes and fibromyalgia) for another set of problems that could be even worse and require lots more surgery!
    I’d really appreciate anyone’s experience on this if you have the time? I also have some questions (sorry!) and would appreciate anyone input, thank you.
    I weigh 16.8 stone so although not drastically over weight, it’s having a bad effect on my diabetes and since entering the menopause (now 54 years old) weight has gained more. I eat quite sensibly, although portion control is not good.
    1. How do you manage knowing you cannot eat your favourite foods anymore for life?
    2. Have you found foods you cannot eat now, such as rice, pasta or bread?
    3. I have to take iron tablets for anaemia, cause unknown after many tests, does anyone else and how has that affected you?
    4. I already suffer constipation at times and heard this gets worse after surgery? How do you combat this? I cannot tolerate some of the med’s because they cause me stomach cramps due to IBS.
    5. How did you cope immediately after surgery, did it take you long to get over and cope with eating again in a new way?
    6. Lastly how do you cope and more importantly hide loss skin, sorry that’s rather personal question, but I do not want to spend the rest of my life in a suit of armour ?

    Thank you

    Hi Gill.

    I am no longer pre diabetic but I do have fibromyalgia so I know where you are coming from in that respect. However, at the start of my journey, I was over ten stone heavier than you are now so weight loss surgery was my only hope of survival. It almost took the decision out of my hands. I’m glad it did. It was easier only having the one option.

    Here are my answers to your questions:

    1.Being menopausal myself, I have to say that wls has not really made much difference to it.
    2.I can’t eat rice or animal protein so I have become vegetarian and learned to love pasta (with which I am fine.)
    3.I take Calcium, Vitamin D and a very good quality multi vitamin and mineral supplement.
    4.Constipation can be eased by drinking plenty of water and gentle exercise (I have a dog!)
    5.I was out of hospital after 3 days despite having an open bypass and my gall bladder removed at the same time. I was back to normal after 6 weeks. Eating was easy as I simply followed the guidelines to the letter.
    6.I saved like a demon and had a tummy tuck. Before that I had very pretty control undergarments. I still have them for the parts I am not 100% happy with.

    I would like to add a category of my own

    7. I am healthier and happier. My life is not easy and my fibro and arthritis are still problematic – but they are not going to kill me. My asthma/COPD will always be a serious problem but I am stronger mentally and emotionally which helps me to cope better.

    These are my honest answers. I hope they help.

    Doodah x

    #52500
    Deifersmum
    Participant

    Hi Gill. I changed to lactosfree milk as I found ordinary milk was causing some very unpleasant (and noisy!!!!) side effects so never really suffered with constipation, my problem has been the other extreme!!!!! I had my bypass in March 2011 and, to date I can eat practically anything, bread is too filling so I do avoid that but I do have good and bad days, some days I react to something some days I don’t its all part of life’s rich tapestry following WLS. As long as you stick to the food plan after the op and follow the experts advice you should be able to minimise any potential problems. I can’t promise it will be plan sailing, but you’ve got a lot of people on your side here who have experienced all sort of problems and found a way to cope, if not cure, them.

    Take care Gill and fingers crossed.

    Love
    Lesley
    xxx

    #52511
    Gill123
    Member

    Hi Everyone and thank you for sharing your experiences with me:clap2:

    Biker Chris – I feel for you regarding the Pepsi Max, nothing else goes down like it does it lol. I know I cant have it after surgery and its probably the hardest of everything to give up.

    The pre-assessment sounds interesting, a whole day though :bored: Still it has to be done and Im sure I will gain a lot of info from it.

    Doodah – Did you have Fibro before your surgery? Has the weight loss helped slightly with pain of fibro? I have a dog also, in fact I work with dogs :panda: (yes ok I know its a panda, but it looks a bit like a dog to me! lol)

    Deifersmum – I think voluntarily going in for such big surgery that will cause more pain is what Im worried about in many ways, I suffer pain daily with fibro and so want to be free from it. If this was an op to cure Fibro Id be first at the door! Im scared of hospitals, so that doesn’t make it any easier. My son, when aged 10 had an accident that resulted in him having spleen removed and head plated, along with many other procedures. I lived in hospital with him for months, thankfully he survived, but it has left us both with a fear of the places.

    Thanks everyone.
    Gill

    #52501
    Kimberly
    Participant

    I found that life got better after surgery , I’m more active and enjoying life . I’m the biggest squinny out and I didn’t have any pain , but I did take my meds . It was the pain that concerned me most but really I didn’t need to worry . I m not liking meat or fish ATM which is a complete surprise to me and it’s not about ethical reason I just don’t like the taste !!!! . I haven’t tried rice yet but to be honest once I eaten protein and veg their no room for any carbs.
    . Medicine /surgery has risks it’s just knowing what they could be . Also working in the health service for 38 years makes you aware that their are no guarantees. I decided that I wanted quality of life. It was a risk/ gamble also,I was aware that I was a high risk on the table , I only regret is why didn’t i do this 5 years earlier

    #52504
    treeza
    Member

    Hi Gill I think we are all addicted to food in one way & another. Most likely what got us all to requiring WLS.

    It’s funny really that the things I thought I’d miss the most eg chocolate, cakes & chocolate biscuits etc I actually don’t miss at all. I do miss glugging down a nice cold can of diet coke if I’m honest but then it was my fav drink. I now love water & have turned into a real tea pot!!!
    Your taste buds do change & having always like very plain food I now love things with as much flavour as possible I think that’s because we eat such small amounts it’s great to savour & really taste what we eat.
    Someone asked me if I miss sitting down to a big meal. My answer was no not at all. My little portion is like a huge portion to me now! I eat very slowly & enjoy every mouthful.
    Constipation can be a issue but if you keep your fluids up & take a laxative when needed it manageable. I had IBS tendencies I don’t think it’s got worse just different!
    There are 2 thinks I really can’t eat & that eggs & bread! A few things I can be ok with one day & not the next. We are all so different so it’s difficult to say what will be a problem for you. It’s all trial & error. Some people have become vegetarians. I for one love meat so did keep trying. Some meats are difficult mind. You just have to chew, chew & chew some more.
    My one & only regret about WLS is I wish with all my heart I’d done it years ago!
    I had my surgery 9 1/2 months ago & I’ve nearly lost 11stone! I’ve still got a way to go but my life has already changed so much.
    Good luck with everything x
    This forum is very friendly & supportive you will get as much help as you need. Xxx

    #52502
    Kimberly
    Participant

    Snap I’m a tea pot as well . When I first had my bypass I would have an option milky drink , but I noticed I’m finding it too sweet so it’s coffee and tea. I also look at a can of ice cold diet coke with beads of water running down the side . But a cup of tea goes down nicely thank you .

    #52492
    Lauren
    Keymaster

    @Gill123 32044 wrote:

    Hi Everyone and thank you for sharing your experiences with me:clap2:

    Biker Chris – I feel for you regarding the Pepsi Max, nothing else goes down like it does it lol. I know I cant have it after surgery and its probably the hardest of everything to give up.

    The pre-assessment sounds interesting, a whole day though :bored: Still it has to be done and Im sure I will gain a lot of info from it.

    Doodah – Did you have Fibro before your surgery? Has the weight loss helped slightly with pain of fibro? I have a dog also, in fact I work with dogs :panda: (yes ok I know its a panda, but it looks a bit like a dog to me! lol)

    Deifersmum – I think voluntarily going in for such big surgery that will cause more pain is what Im worried about in many ways, I suffer pain daily with fibro and so want to be free from it. If this was an op to cure Fibro Id be first at the door! Im scared of hospitals, so that doesn’t make it any easier. My son, when aged 10 had an accident that resulted in him having spleen removed and head plated, along with many other procedures. I lived in hospital with him for months, thankfully he survived, but it has left us both with a fear of the places.

    Thanks everyone.
    Gill

    Haha! Love your Panda Dog!

    I have had fibro, arthritis and asthma (plus a few other health issues that are inherited) most of my life. It’s quite possible that I have never felt 100% well since I can remember. Plagued by eczema as a very small child (infant really) and aching bones and joints too. However, the days when I feel OK are treasured. They are rare but when they happen, they are fabulous.

    I understand your fear of hospitals. I spent 6 months of each of my pregnancies in hospital with very severe complications. I would do it all over again as my children were born healthy. Isn’t it bizarre that I now spend quite a bit of time in them visiting other people? I had wls to give myself a longer life. it won’t be an easier one but the alternative is unthinkable. If I hadn’t had wls I most certainly wouldn’t be here now. To quote Dr ‘Bones’ McCoy from Star Trek: ‘It’s life Jim, but not as we know it’. I’m here. To me, that’s all that matters and I’m sure you feel the same having a young child.

    Doodah x

    #52512
    Gill123
    Member

    Hi All,

    Just thought Id update you. I had my all day assessment on 30th May, that all went well and I saw Chris pring. I was still “sitting on the fence” with my emotions, so he said he would hold my place until I got back to him as to whether or not I want this surgery, which was very nice of him. He pointed out that my diabetes will get worse and I can expect leg, kidney and eye problems in near future without this surgery.

    Felt a little dismayed at this as it seemed the future without surgery looked bleak, but with surgery it still looked bleak as no matter what I could never again eat my favourite foods/drinks, not even once on a special occasion. I’m sorry I’m sounding very negative, but I have to say it as I see it at present.

    Anyway today I rang the hospital and asked to go ahead with the bypass – so decision made, its only taken me 2 years :dance:

    For any if you that have Fibromyalgia, did the operation cause you a big flare?

    Thanks for your support
    Gill

    #52510
    bikerchris
    Participant

    Hi Gill,

    Well done on reaching a decision, doesn’t matter how long it took. Going down this route is not an easy choice so you were right to think well. I’m now 7 weeks post op and I can honestly say I’ve not found it difficult to deal with the food. I was given a comprehensive booklet before surgery that told me how to plan and what to expect. I have done exactly what I have been told to (which is rare for me), I reckon that if I stick to the rules, I’ll be fine.

    Like you, before surgery, I worried how I’d manage without certain foods. So far, this has not been a problem as I’ve had no desire to eat anything sugary or fatty. As I am in early days, this may not always be the case but I’m glad I’m not finding it a trial. All I can add is that in this short time, I feel better and more energetic, my walking speed and endurance has improved and I’ve lost over 3 stones. I’ve got no insight with the fibromyalgia sorry.

    I look forward to sharing this journey with you

    Chris xx

    #52513
    Gill123
    Member

    Thanks Chris and well done that’s a fantastic weight loss in such early days, hope I do as well as you seem to be :rockon:

    Gill

    #52493
    Lauren
    Keymaster

    @Gill123 32317 wrote:

    Hi All,

    Just thought Id update you. I had my all day assessment on 30th May, that all went well and I saw Chris pring. I was still “sitting on the fence” with my emotions, so he said he would hold my place until I got back to him as to whether or not I want this surgery, which was very nice of him. He pointed out that my diabetes will get worse and I can expect leg, kidney and eye problems in near future without this surgery.

    Felt a little dismayed at this as it seemed the future without surgery looked bleak, but with surgery it still looked bleak as no matter what I could never again eat my favourite foods/drinks, not even once on a special occasion. I’m sorry I’m sounding very negative, but I have to say it as I see it at present.

    Anyway today I rang the hospital and asked to go ahead with the bypass – so decision made, its only taken me 2 years :dance:

    For any if you that have Fibromyalgia, did the operation cause you a big flare?

    Thanks for your support
    Gill

    Hi Gill.

    I have fibromyalgia and I can honestly say I had no flare up at all. neither did it affect my asthma.

    As for worrying about not being able to ever again eat the food you love, once the pounds then stones start falling off, you will be too busy buying fab new clothes and doing new things to ever worry about it. Yes, there will be times when you wish you could turn to food for comfort but – a big but – that is what got you into this situation in the first place!

    You may be like some of the other lovely people on this forum and take up a hobby or exercise type you couldn’t consider before as a distraction. Comfort eating happens when we are uncomfortable, either emotionally or physically. Once the physical discomfort eases, you will find there are many more options to cope with stress or negative emotions than eating.

    As the years pass, you will be able to have a tiny bit of what you fancy. I have champagne at weddings and parties. But I never feel the need for it the rest of the time. There is a way round every situation – you just have to work hard to find it. Please try to focus on the positives – the lovely people on here will definitely be able to help with that!

    Doodah x

    #52505
    treeza
    Member

    Hi Gill I can say with all honestly that I wouldn’t change having this op for anything. I truthfully don’t miss anything of the things I thought I would. The one thing I do miss is downing an ice cold diet coke on a hot day. Other than that I don’t miss anything. I can sit in a room full for cakes, biscuits, chocolates (I did just yesterday) & not bat an eyelid! My happiness at my weight loss out weighs the happiness any of that “stuff” could give me! A moment in you lips a life time on your hips (I think that’s what they say?). Good luck x we are all here if you need us x

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