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  • #31749
    Lelly
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    Hello all, just want to raise an issue that is close to my heart and I am sure you will be interested in. The Vickster is back in St Richards in Chichester as she cannot keep anything down and this is a problem that could happen to any newly bypassed patient, of course she is in the best place and she will be up and about very soon I am sure. The problem is that she is not allowed to be cared for on the Chichester Suite, this is something that I don’t understand, it is an area that specialises in the care of bariatric patients and has all the equipment required to do so, we also know this area and feel comfortable there. I have heard stories about this before, where patients suffering from operation related problems are not allowed to go back to the Chichester Suite as they feel that it would upset pre-op patients. My view is that we are adults and if ready for this operation have researched thoroughly the good and the bad aspects of having this procedure done and should not “wet our knickers” if we hear or see someone who is having problems following their op. They are wrapping in cotton wool the pre-op patients to the detriment of those who, for no fault of their own are suffering from a problem that could affect any of us. I really am not “slagging off” Chichester, as I have had the best care possible and cannot praise them enough but I was talking to a very distraught Vickster last night who was so upset, she didn’t even have a proper bariatric bed and the sheets didn’t fit. She could not speak to her hubby as it is a “quiet” ward and spent a large part of the night in the chair. I really to do strongly feel that we should be treated, whether pre or post surgery in the “Chichester Suite”, if they are concerned about pre-op patients then put us in a side room but this ward specialises in large patients and this is where we should be.
    The Vickster has now been told that if she can keep fluids and sloppy food down, then she maybe allowed home later today, briiliant, until the nurse asked her if she would like some ice cream or custard, when Vicky told her that she cannot have that, the nurse told her that they cannot access the bariatric menu arghhhh!!!!!!!
    Lelly

    #54509
    penny
    Member

    Poor Vickster she must be so distraught, this is terrible that she is not where she should be, I did not know this could happen I thought you would just be straight to the chichester suite, as you say after all they are the experts. It is a bit of a let down as this is the time you need the 100% care from the bariatric experts. I am sure that after a big operation you might get a bit down and tearful so the vickster does not need this. and as you said we all are adults and know that some things are not quite straight forward, come on chichester treat the patients as grown ups.
    Best wishes to Vickster wishing you well and home soon xxx

    #54506
    Lauren
    Keymaster

    Playing devil’s advocate here.

    What if all the beds on the Chichester suite are full and there just isn’t room for anymore patients? If the Chichester suite is jam packed, it would mean surgeries would have to be cancelled as there would be no beds available. So imagine your surgery being cancelled because people were having trouble post surgery and were brought back into the Chichester suite…..

    I’m not in any way saying that it’s not awful for Vickster, what I’m saying is that sometimes the logistics and practicalities of NHS wards means that priorities have to made that might seem unfair to that patient at the time.

    I hope Vicky makes a full and speedy recovery and that this becomes a distant memory veery soon.

    Doodah x

    #54510
    penny
    Member

    i have been so worried why this happened, but now after your explanation i feel better about maybe the way they work these things out, after all there must have been a doctor looking after vickster and not just a nurse who was not experienced in this field. I do hope your feeling so much better today vickster xxx

    #54512
    bikerchris
    Participant

    Hi all. I also hope Vicky is doing well now.

    In a situation like this, we have to assume the medical profession knows what they’re doing. We hear so much about the NHS being strapped for cash so I suppose the positive thing is that Vicky could be readmitted at all.

    I do empathise though, once we have had all the worries and concerns up to the point of surgery, of course we’d like everything to be plain sailing afterwards. When I had my bypass I was expected to have a two night stay but Mr Slater wouldn’t discharge me as my blood pressure and heart rate was abnormal. Because I live so far away, 200 miles, he wasn’t prepared to let me go because nipping back wasn’t an option. My sister had already set off to come and get me and I had to ring her to ask if she could turn round and come again tomorrow. I just cried and cried, I was lonely, homesick, in pain and worried.

    In hindsight, of course it was the right thing for me to stay in hospital but I was not happy at the time.

    Chris xx

    #54507
    Lauren
    Keymaster

    @bikerchris 34408 wrote:

    Hi all. I also hope Vicky is doing well now.

    In a situation like this, we have to assume the medical profession knows what they’re doing. We hear so much about the NHS being strapped for cash so I suppose the positive thing is that Vicky could be readmitted at all.

    I do empathise though, once we have had all the worries and concerns up to the point of surgery, of course we’d like everything to be plain sailing afterwards. When I had my bypass I was expected to have a two night stay but Mr Slater wouldn’t discharge me as my blood pressure and heart rate was abnormal. Because I live so far away, 200 miles, he wasn’t prepared to let me go because nipping back wasn’t an option. My sister had already set off to come and get me and I had to ring her to ask if she could turn round and come again tomorrow. I just cried and cried, I was lonely, homesick, in pain and worried.

    In hindsight, of course it was the right thing for me to stay in hospital but I was not happy at the time.

    Chris xx

    That’s exactly the point I was trying (possibly clumsily) trying to make, Chris. My Dad had to wait 8 hours for a very serious operation because there was a major traffic incident that had happened in our county, combined with the fact that on the cardiac ward he was waiting to be admitted to, a young girl arrested and died.

    It meant that we were at the hospital the best part of a day with him, until he was brought back from recovery. It was just how things had panned out and no one was to ‘blame’. We were so grateful that he was even done on that day!

    So, whilst it is incredibly bad luck and highly distressing when things don’t go as we want or expect them to, our wonderful NHS nurses, doctors and the rest of the staff, often have decisions to make that are hugely unpopular. But they make them with patient priority at the forefront of their minds.

    Please give Vickster our love and support and I hope there are no more glitches.

    Doodah x

    #54511
    Kimberly
    Participant

    Hope vic ok and would love to know , must be scary for her . I was so scared not when I had my bypass , to be truthful as I was in ITU I had excellent care . But when I had my appendicitis out 10 months later was really scared . The doctors on vic team are on call and will see her couple of times a day . She also be seen either by a senior register or a consultant once a day . They are alway available by phone for consultation . The nurses will be able to look after the post op nursing care but may not know about food ect . This is why we need to learn and become our own expert in wls . And also educate our loved ones who can advocate for us if need . Personally I always found the food in hospital rank and get loved ones to bring me yogurts , milky coffee . And soup in flask . I only eat in hospital to get out as I know that’s one of the questions have you eaten ( meaning can you keep it down ) have you passed urine ( are your kidney working ) and have you passed stool !!!! Or wind ( bowels moving ) and are you walking ( concern about DVT ) then they look at your on , pulse temp . To see if any thing going on physically . Nurses also look at you watching for any changes that might indicate infection , ect , I also look on the menu and think what can’t they ruin . Usually I have mash potato which even then is yuck .

    #54508
    Lauren
    Keymaster

    @Kimberly 34410 wrote:

    Hope vic ok and would love to know , must be scary for her . I was so scared not when I had my bypass , to be truthful as I was in ITU I had excellent care . But when I had my appendicitis out 10 months later was really scared . The doctors on vic team are on call and will see her couple of times a day . She also be seen either by a senior register or a consultant once a day . They are alway available by phone for consultation . The nurses will be able to look after the post op nursing care but may not know about food ect . This is why we need to learn and become our own expert in wls . And also educate our loved ones who can advocate for us if need . Personally I always found the food in hospital rank and get loved ones to bring me yogurts , milky coffee . And soup in flask . I only eat in hospital to get out as I know that’s one of the questions have you eaten ( meaning can you keep it down ) have you passed urine ( are your kidney working ) and have you passed stool !!!! Or wind ( bowels moving ) and are you walking ( concern about DVT ) then they look at your on , pulse temp . To see if any thing going on physically . Nurses also look at you watching for any changes that might indicate infection , ect , I also look on the menu and think what can’t they ruin . Usually I have mash potato which even then is yuck .

    Fantastic advice and professional knowledge from our Kim here. How lucky we are to have reassurance from clinicians on this forum.

    Doodah x

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